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	<title>Comments on: Lactivists take on H&#038;M!</title>
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		<title>By: Nadia</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something similar happened in NB.  A woman was kicked out of the mall for breastfeeding her child.  Everyone here thinks it's weird to breastfeed so no one took a stand, but let me tell you that when my turns comes to breastfeed in public...I will do it proudly!  You go girls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something similar happened in NB.  A woman was kicked out of the mall for breastfeeding her child.  Everyone here thinks it&#8217;s weird to breastfeed so no one took a stand, but let me tell you that when my turns comes to breastfeed in public&#8230;I will do it proudly!  You go girls!</p>
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		<title>By: Lunapads &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lactivists take on Facebook today</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunapads &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lactivists take on Facebook today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-1794</guid>
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		<title>By: Madeleine</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-542</guid>
		<description>As a 3-year veteran of "the business of selling clothes" (see photos here http://www.lunapads.com/gallery.htm )  I am happy to pursue the breastfeeding issue from a business perspective.  I'll start by noting that women make upwards of 80% of all household purchasing decisions, and that it's obvious that having positive feelings about a given retail environment is conducive to spending (as we will see, the opposite is also true.)  

Anyone care to field a guess of how much money in sales were lost (and will continue to be lost) by H&#38;M for failing to create positive feelings within one of its most important customer groups?  Put another way, who should be doing whom a favour in retail transactions these days, particularly given the state of the economy and diminished consumer spending?  Sure, H&#38;M, despite legislation that states otherwise, can stick to an antiquated set of rules that will basically lead to lost sales, or be more progressively business-minded and, say, create a welcoming space for families (that would include bored spouses, tired elders, and hungry babies) that would actually encourage customers to stay in the store, develop positive feelings and ultimately spend money there - wouldn't that be a smarter, not to mention more humane, business model?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 3-year veteran of &#8220;the business of selling clothes&#8221; (see photos here <a href="http://www.lunapads.com/gallery.htm" rel="nofollow" >http://www.lunapads.com/gallery.htm</a> )  I am happy to pursue the breastfeeding issue from a business perspective.  I&#8217;ll start by noting that women make upwards of 80% of all household purchasing decisions, and that it&#8217;s obvious that having positive feelings about a given retail environment is conducive to spending (as we will see, the opposite is also true.)  </p>
<p>Anyone care to field a guess of how much money in sales were lost (and will continue to be lost) by H&amp;M for failing to create positive feelings within one of its most important customer groups?  Put another way, who should be doing whom a favour in retail transactions these days, particularly given the state of the economy and diminished consumer spending?  Sure, H&amp;M, despite legislation that states otherwise, can stick to an antiquated set of rules that will basically lead to lost sales, or be more progressively business-minded and, say, create a welcoming space for families (that would include bored spouses, tired elders, and hungry babies) that would actually encourage customers to stay in the store, develop positive feelings and ultimately spend money there - wouldn&#8217;t that be a smarter, not to mention more humane, business model?</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-541</guid>
		<description>While you say you support breastfeeding, you also say that mothers who breastfeed in public are lazy and inconsiderate. The last thing new moms need is that kind of judgement. Would you judge a mother because her baby screamed constantly (due to say colic) to be lazy and inconsiderate?  Would you tell her that she can’t go to shopping because the store/mall has a policy against loud and disturbing noises because it will impede commerce?  I don’t need to tell you that babies, especially infants, often need to be fed hourly and simply have much greater needs.   Stores have a policy banning food and drink because they are concerned about maintaining the cleanliness of their store and products; a nursing mom feeding her baby should not be in the same category as ‘food and drink’.   

This is a real issue because mothers need to know they have a legislated human right (in BC) to breastfeed in public, and stores like H&#038;M need to exercise greater sensitivity, not intolerance.  Businesses who put commerce in front of basic human needs and who show a lack of respect is why lactivism takes place and why so many women showed up!  

In my assessment, the event was a success.  H&#038;M has updated their policy and debriefed with staff on appropriate conduct, and I’m guessing some new nursing moms will go out with their babies with greater confidence and support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you say you support breastfeeding, you also say that mothers who breastfeed in public are lazy and inconsiderate. The last thing new moms need is that kind of judgement. Would you judge a mother because her baby screamed constantly (due to say colic) to be lazy and inconsiderate?  Would you tell her that she can’t go to shopping because the store/mall has a policy against loud and disturbing noises because it will impede commerce?  I don’t need to tell you that babies, especially infants, often need to be fed hourly and simply have much greater needs.   Stores have a policy banning food and drink because they are concerned about maintaining the cleanliness of their store and products; a nursing mom feeding her baby should not be in the same category as ‘food and drink’.   </p>
<p>This is a real issue because mothers need to know they have a legislated human right (in BC) to breastfeed in public, and stores like H&#038;M need to exercise greater sensitivity, not intolerance.  Businesses who put commerce in front of basic human needs and who show a lack of respect is why lactivism takes place and why so many women showed up!  </p>
<p>In my assessment, the event was a success.  H&#038;M has updated their policy and debriefed with staff on appropriate conduct, and I’m guessing some new nursing moms will go out with their babies with greater confidence and support.</p>
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		<title>By: Ursulla Puppette</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>Ursulla Puppette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-514</guid>
		<description>I am all for breastfeeding.  I have a sweet little one, 6 mos old,  and two teeth so far. However- I will not now nor ever stand up for you or anyone else who believes that my son, your son,  anybody's son NEEDS to be fed in a store.  While that woman was waiting for her husband to try on clothes, she was feeding her child. Great.  But she really should have found a better place to do it.  She has a right to bare her breast, feed her kid, whatever angle you want to shoot it at- but that store has a right to implement rules, too. No food or drink to be consumed in store.  No impeding in the business of selling clothes.  No taking up space having a meal when you could very well go to any number of non-store places (seat in mall, food court, mothers room, wherever).  Your laziness and lack of planning for mealtime, your inability to tell hubby that you are taking junior to a more comfortable place that doesnt impede commerce is not a lactivist issue.  Thats just your poor planning, judgment, and consideration of others.  Call me when we have a real issue.  Call me when you cant feed your kid where you do actually eat.  Cause we dont eat at the H&#38;M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for breastfeeding.  I have a sweet little one, 6 mos old,  and two teeth so far. However- I will not now nor ever stand up for you or anyone else who believes that my son, your son,  anybody&#8217;s son NEEDS to be fed in a store.  While that woman was waiting for her husband to try on clothes, she was feeding her child. Great.  But she really should have found a better place to do it.  She has a right to bare her breast, feed her kid, whatever angle you want to shoot it at- but that store has a right to implement rules, too. No food or drink to be consumed in store.  No impeding in the business of selling clothes.  No taking up space having a meal when you could very well go to any number of non-store places (seat in mall, food court, mothers room, wherever).  Your laziness and lack of planning for mealtime, your inability to tell hubby that you are taking junior to a more comfortable place that doesnt impede commerce is not a lactivist issue.  Thats just your poor planning, judgment, and consideration of others.  Call me when we have a real issue.  Call me when you cant feed your kid where you do actually eat.  Cause we dont eat at the H&amp;M.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-510</guid>
		<description>I can't understand why anyone would be uncomfortable at the sight of breastfeeding.  I tend to either not notice or actually feel relaxed if I see a woman breastfeeding because it's completely natural and both mother and baby are happy and in a state of peace at that moment.  I'm sure the majority of the population was breastfed at some point so what's the problem?  Unfortunately there are the few perverts out there who do consider breastfeeding sexual just because of the mere sight of a nipple, but I'm sure those people are few and far between.

Great post!  I liked that Jimmy Kimmel clip, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why anyone would be uncomfortable at the sight of breastfeeding.  I tend to either not notice or actually feel relaxed if I see a woman breastfeeding because it&#8217;s completely natural and both mother and baby are happy and in a state of peace at that moment.  I&#8217;m sure the majority of the population was breastfed at some point so what&#8217;s the problem?  Unfortunately there are the few perverts out there who do consider breastfeeding sexual just because of the mere sight of a nipple, but I&#8217;m sure those people are few and far between.</p>
<p>Great post!  I liked that Jimmy Kimmel clip, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-509</guid>
		<description>A few more thoughts to add to my original post...
the vibe at the nurse-in was amazing.  To me, it felt like a kind of love-in of nursing mamas, babes and supporters, amongst the craziness of the cameras, microphones and journalists. I saw a few annoyed H&#038;M employees and customers who looked a bit put out, but the rest of us were enjoying the whole scene.
Another important point: in British Columbia, the Human Rights Commission expressly sets out a woman's right to breastfeed anywhere in public.  So, the public debate going on about whether a woman can breastfeed in public is really MOOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more thoughts to add to my original post&#8230;<br />
the vibe at the nurse-in was amazing.  To me, it felt like a kind of love-in of nursing mamas, babes and supporters, amongst the craziness of the cameras, microphones and journalists. I saw a few annoyed H&#038;M employees and customers who looked a bit put out, but the rest of us were enjoying the whole scene.<br />
Another important point: in British Columbia, the Human Rights Commission expressly sets out a woman&#8217;s right to breastfeed anywhere in public.  So, the public debate going on about whether a woman can breastfeed in public is really MOOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Madeleine</title>
		<link>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lunapads.com/2008/08/lactivists-take-on-hm/#comment-508</guid>
		<description>Awesome post, Suzanne!  During my and Gigi's nursing career I remember a "mama bear" feeling sometimes of almost wanting someone to challenge me for nursing publicly, so that I could bravely fight for my breastfeeding rights.  It seems like a bit of an unwritten rule in our society that we should hide our breasts when they are most necessary, all the while having models' cleavage paraded on ubiquitous billboards.  But for every disapproving glance (no comments, though - no H&#038;M in those days!), for me at least, there was often a smile similar to what you describe bestowing on others you see nursing now - of understanding these timeless moments of trust, love and nourishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post, Suzanne!  During my and Gigi&#8217;s nursing career I remember a &#8220;mama bear&#8221; feeling sometimes of almost wanting someone to challenge me for nursing publicly, so that I could bravely fight for my breastfeeding rights.  It seems like a bit of an unwritten rule in our society that we should hide our breasts when they are most necessary, all the while having models&#8217; cleavage paraded on ubiquitous billboards.  But for every disapproving glance (no comments, though - no H&#038;M in those days!), for me at least, there was often a smile similar to what you describe bestowing on others you see nursing now - of understanding these timeless moments of trust, love and nourishment.</p>
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